# Ada on the PYPL index **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [July 1, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425 "2023-07-01T20:31:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/1 "2023-07-01T20:31:41Z")
Ada reaches 1% on the [PYPL](https://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html) index 😃 ![image](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/73d2329ab0e702efb6ed62014b851cdbcf0c6822.png) ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/2 "2025-01-01T19:00:20Z")
1.21% now! Plus, Ada is now well visible on the language “map”: ![All](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/ac1bb10403c6ffd2213597e411b3688f3475c36e.png) ---
**Author:** ![pyj](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/pyj/32/5_2.png) [@pyj](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/pyj)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/3 "2025-01-02T00:41:30Z")
We really need to add more tutorials and such. [learn.adacore.com](http://learn.adacore.com) is great, but we need more explanations of how to work in the language and ecosystem, especially for application programmers. ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/4 "2025-07-01T23:04:51Z")
1.65% Through the roof 😉 ![pypl](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/32d202952646e7d0abbdefc01b3dcd39461274bb.png) ---
**Author:** ![pyj](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/pyj/32/5_2.png) [@pyj](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/pyj)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/5 "2025-07-02T01:09:14Z")
Needs more up arrows ![Screenshot 2025-07-01 210824](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/94a76bcef9cbfcdd6efa6310067504cf86512624.png) ---
**Author:** ![gast](https://forum.ada-lang.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/9fc29f/32.png) [@gast](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/gast)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/6 "2025-07-03T21:08:26Z")
What is the main reason for Ada’s growing popularity this year? ---
**Author:** ![charlie5](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/charlie5/32/626_2.png) [@charlie5](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/charlie5)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/7 "2025-07-04T00:54:23Z")
Reached critical mass ? … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![F-Loyer](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/f-loyer/32/531_2.png) [@F-Loyer](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/F-Loyer)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/9 "2025-07-06T11:53:25Z")
Programmers usuably don’t choose (only) a language, but an ecosystem. If I wan’t to program the computation of a filter response and the drawing a bode plot, I guess I whould choose Python because of the matplotlib (even if Ada would be nice with its included complex computation). It is also a strength of Java : many things available out of the box (GUI binding, Web, etc). I guess Alire will have an important value for many programmers which are considering Ada to develop something. Unfortunately, not every libraries can be easily installed with Alire. ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/10 "2025-09-04T15:17:27Z")
September 2025: 2.11% 😃 ---
**Author:** ![krischik](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/krischik/32/420_2.png) [@krischik](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/krischik)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/11 "2025-09-04T16:31:45Z")
Yes, Ada at place 12: ![image](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/89273220c2bf1618df926968ea54fd7829d1fb90.jpeg) Ada almost caught up with RUST ![image](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/c34f62d4029748bc8e44635231ec92793247dc9a.jpeg) And at TIOBE it’s similar, place 13: ![image](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/8ee08cf1fc6e914ca872c6ec7a0523dec1bb58f5.jpeg) ![image](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/0c676ff9954f6a77f2d33fd657ef78a200dddddd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/12 "2025-09-05T00:26:42Z")
Note, regarding TIOBE, that the keyword “nvidia” is excluded from the Web searches. It is explained in “This Month’s Changes in the Index” (August 2025): > W. H. told us that programming language ADA might have been boosted in the TIOBE index because of the Ada Lovelace architecture of NVIDIA. For this reason we have added “-NVIDIA” to Ada’s search term. As a consequence, Ada dropped from position #9 last month to position #13 this month. This is unfortunate because the exclusion discards lots of articles about NVIDIA’s own usage of Ada. ---
**Author:** ![DirkCraeynest](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/dirkcraeynest/32/94_2.png) [@DirkCraeynest](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/DirkCraeynest)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/13 "2025-09-05T13:28:13Z")
Hence, an additional correction of Ada’s search term is required. +”NVIDIA Ada programming” maybe? ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/14 "2025-09-05T18:19:12Z")
> [@DirkCraeynest](#): > > +”NVIDIA Ada programming” maybe? With that query, only that exact sequence (theoretically) would be searched, and Ada would land at place +/- #513 😉 . But I have searched a few weeks ago with Google, with a 1-year filter (as the TIOBE guy does) +“ada programming” +“NVIDIA” to see the impact of doing +“ada programming” -“NVIDIA”, as the TIOBE guy does currently. 37 hits were shown. 33 hits mentioned the Ada language (so, should be counted). 1 hit mentioned the “Ada Lovelace” GPU (so, should not be counted). 3 were about other topics or some chat in Indonesian (this noise is everywhere, is counted for all programming languages, so there is a mutual neutralization). So I have suggested to the author just to remove the -“NVIDIA” filter. ---
**Author:** ![waleedmebane](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/waleedmebane/32/352_2.png) [@waleedmebane](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/waleedmebane)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/15 "2025-09-05T20:31:19Z")
How about remove “-NVIDIA” and add '“-Lovelace”? ---
**Author:** ![kevlar700](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/kevlar700/32/1118_2.png) [@kevlar700](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/kevlar700)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/16 "2025-09-06T00:33:24Z")
This might be new too and Ada Lovelace is championed in some pro Women establishments of late. > **[Ada Computer Science](https://adacomputerscience.org/)** > > Join Ada Computer Science, the free, online computer science programme for students and teachers. Learn with our computer science resources and questions. ---
**Author:** ![krischik](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/krischik/32/420_2.png) [@krischik](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/krischik)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/17 "2025-09-06T18:25:03Z")
I have also suggested that the filter is reconsidered. I didn’t go for remove as I didn’t do an in-depth analysis. ---
**Author:** ![pmnw](https://forum.ada-lang.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@pmnw](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/pmnw)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/18 "2025-09-24T14:03:17Z")
Those interested in rankings may find the following interesting. > **[AI Is Redefining the Concept of a Programming Language's Popularity](https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2025)** > > Python reigns supreme again, but is AI changing the game for programming languages? Find out how coding is transforming. ---
**Author:** ![cantanima](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/cantanima/32/121_2.png) [@cantanima](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/cantanima)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/19 "2025-09-24T23:30:32Z")
> [@pmnw](#): > > Those interested in rankings may find the following interesting. TL;DR: - the good news is that, before long, we won’t be worried / squabbling about programming language popularity - the bad news is that, before long, we’ll be worried / squabbling about Large Language Model popularity - the worse news is that, not much longer after that, people will look at the world of software developers / engineers / etc. much the same way they look at the world of 8-bit cpu hobbyists: “how charmingly quaint!” 😁 NB: - i said that was the TL;DR, _not_ that it was my personal belief - i’m being tongue in cheek (hence the 😁)… - …mostly ---
**Author:** ![zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/zertovitch/32/90_2.png) [@zertovitch](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/zertovitch)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/20 "2025-10-03T23:50:10Z")
If only for aesthetic reasons, I like this month’s map: ![pypl_2025_10](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/58cb9ed28e239459926011775a37beaf387edc38.png) The ranking is interesting too: ![rank](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/b350483c45137ede10d96922675ef57a018f6bc6.png) ---
**Author:** ![mgrojo](https://forum.ada-lang.io/user_avatar/forum.ada-lang.io/mgrojo/32/15_2.png) [@mgrojo](https://forum.ada-lang.io/u/mgrojo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425/21 "2025-12-08T17:40:23Z")
December 2025: ![imagen](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/9f0ff487836d53bdbf00a022aa1f716934985b0d.png) Trends of immediate competitors: ![imagen](https://forum.ada-lang.io/uploads/default/original/1X/fc6565481cfb780a22854f5b7931216fefc10dc1.png) [Next page](https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/ada-on-the-pypl-index/425.md?page=2)