Ada back in the TIOBE Top 20 (March 2025)

Dinosaurs indeed…

There be DRAGONS!

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…and in the Top 15 in the PYPL index, possibly for the first time.

What’s happening?
What is Bill Gates doing?!

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From the site:

Check out Fortran 2023, Delphi 12 (released in 2024), Ada 2023 and COBOL 2023.

I hope people don’t go searching for that when they should search for Ada 2022.

Also:

We might frown to see these languages being in the TIOBE index top 20…

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Why on earth would someone frown about it? I don’t see them suggesting that about C or C++, which are at least as old as Ada. What of Visual BASIC?

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Why would you search for 2022 to try to find ISO/IEC 8652:2023?

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I want a tee shirt with that image on the front!
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And that on the back

Ada 2022
Cobol 2023
Fortran 2023
You buried us too quick, kiddo!!

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It does seem like the outreach has improved, but TIOBE doesn’t make sense to me. I have a hard time believing C++ has a rating 3-4 times higher than JavaScript and 50 times higher than TypeScript. If you look at job boards or GitHub that seems inverted.

Languish looks at number of GitHub issues and GitHub pull requests which makes more sense, and Ada is 155 (it was 163 in 2022).

Looking at GitHub’s recently updated to see the number of projects:

  • Zig: 5,600
  • Pascal: 47,900
  • Rust: 396,000
  • Go: 1,100,000
  • C++: 3,600,000
  • Typescript: 4,200,000
  • Javascript: 22,300,000
  • Ada: 4,600

Don’t worry about the charts and just have a good time writing cool projects.

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If we’re to believe the old joke, Ada results are inflated by the people seeking information about diabetes and dental hygiene.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t warn everyone that immaterial questions, such as magical rankings or the frontpage of hackernews, are malevolent phenomena. They have no value. You’re doing yourself harm if you pay attention to them. It’s better to focus on real things.

Number of issues or updates is inversely proportional to correctness. As Ada is the language of choice for correct software, we would expect Ada’s numbers to be lower than other languages’, even if all languages are equally used.

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Because Ada 2022 is the “vernacular name” for ISO/IEC 8652:2023, chosen by the ISO working group on the Ada standard (WG9) to have a unique designation for this language version.

The 2023 in the identification of the latest Ada standard is the year of publication by ISO, which took quite some time after technical completion due to the long administrative process.

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And now look at the April figures :wink:

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